See 20% upside in earnings this qtr: Motilal Oswal AMC
Nitin Rakesh, CEO, Motilal Oswal Asset Management Company said that he expects 20% upside on earnings this quarter, adding he sees robust numbers in the third quarter of FY11. India’s consumption story is still strong, he says.
Rakesh likes Infosys and TCS in the IT Space, he said.
Below is a verbatim transcript of his interview with CNBC-TV18’s Latha Venkatesh and Sonia Shenoy. Also watch the accompanying videos.
Q: How are all these macros stacking up for you? Do you think very stiff resistance at the current highs of 6,300 is very much in order, even if we break the 6,000 mark in the new year?
A: I think we have for the last six-eight weeks we had this seemingly sharp move, but effectively we are in this range of 5,700 on the downside, over 6,000 on the upside. So, I think clearly it’s time to take stock, consolidations underway. A lot of global events, a lot of domestic events both from an economic perspective, inflation, interest rates, liquidity, quarterly numbers are coming up. So, I think at this point it looks like that we are in this range of 5,700 to about 6,000 on the Nifty.
There aren’t any immediate triggers either from a liquidity or a fund flow perspective or from a fundamental perspective. Yes, people have concerns around for example the crude prices, but I think as at this point in time all of that really is being digested and markets seems to be in a consolidation mode.
Q: How long do you think this consolidation mode will play? And any sense that you are getting for the early months of 2011, is there any expectation of the markets breaking out of their all time highs in the first half of 2011?
A: We need some fresh triggers. Clearly, a lot has been discounted by the markets over the last few weeks. In my view, there are only two-three events that can lead this move back up above previous highs. Obviously, we definitely need robust foreign flows to continue. If we got anywhere from USD 30-40 billion this year, I think we need to see if not higher, but atleast in that same range next year for the markets to even stay robust.
Secondly, I think with this quarter earnings, seemingly to be above 20% at an aggregate level, that might provide the next trigger from a valuation point of view because the concern everybody has had is that at this level the market seems fairly priced. So, even though we may not do much on the price front, even if we do positive things on the earnings front, I think that might make the market look attractive again.
Q: If one looked at the corporate earnings for the last eight quarters, up until September 30th, the second quarter of 2009 you actually saw a negative performance, you saw the slowdown impact very drastically which is why it was easy to have very positive performance up until Q2 that is September 30. But when you come to the last calendar quarter of 2009 there was a fairly decent uptick both in macros and much more so in corporate performance. Would you say therefore this Q3 of FY11 could be a tough ask to do really that much better than what is projected?
A: Obviously, the stock prices don’t move in a linear fashion even though the earnings growth seems to be much more linear. So, clearly there are more factors that play from a price point of view in the markets.
Secondly, a point about this base effect on the earnings front, taking that into account as well it does look like that we might see a fairly robust third quarter numbers for FY11 based on the projection that we are running. Clearly as I said that has to be the next trigger for the market. If anything, even for us to get back to the previous highs that we saw six weeks ago we really need those kind of numbers actually turn up.
Q: What is the inhouse number crunching telling you that some sector surprise is possible?
A: There are obviously a couple of things that play here. Clearly, the consumption story still continues to be very strong and we are likely to see some positive surprises on that front. So, if that stays strong, clearly that has a trickle down effect to every other sector that impacted. So, clearly I think that is the first major trigger.
Despite all the concerns around the banking sector, we might see a positive surprise because at this point in time atleast based on our internals analysis, it doesn’t look like we will see a fairly significant impact on the margins. So that also will be good news.
I think thirdly, the counter trend to that is the impact of higher oil prices and higher commodity prices on companies that use commodities. But keeping in mind that almost 40% of Sensex companies are commodity companies, I think that also might cancel each other out as well. So, I think overall we still think that we might see more than 20% earnings growth for this quarter which I think will be a fairly good number.